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By: Harry

Harry — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:29:15 +0000

p.s. Jamie, you didn’t bring a solution.

Regards,

Troll.

By: Ted Biringer

Ted Biringer — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:36:16 +0000

Hello Jamie,

Thank you for your comments.

Also, thank you for your continuous endeavors on the Zen path of practice-enlightenment.

Three Full Bows.

Peace,
Ted

By: Jamie G.

Jamie G. — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:38:47 +0000

Sorry Ted… I promise to no longer feed the Trolls. Great blog and great posts.

By: Harry

Harry — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:59:51 +0000

Hi Jamie,

In mistaking your own little observation/opinion for some substantial truth, you may be making a loser. We’re often ‘turned’ by such things.

I never claimed to be a winner, just to be making my own partial, personal observations.

Have we lost a year or gained a new one?

All the best,

Harry (loser, ‘loser’ and sometimes Real Loser).

By: Jamie G.

Jamie G. — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:58:50 +0000

My boss says don’t come in to his office with a problem unless I have a solution to share. I agree with Ted, it’s one thing to initiate in Dharma combat and go back and forth in dialogue, it’s another to just be lazy and not back up your objections if you aren’t willing to engage in the conversation. Sorry Harry, but it seems you are the one not up to it.

By: Ted Biringer

Ted Biringer — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:02:06 +0000

Hello Harry,

Thank you for your comments.

If you really are putting it to the test, then I am heartened. Encouraging people to do so is the primary purpose of my efforts here. In the genuine attempt to test the expressions of others, we simultaneously test our own views. Regardless of what “stands up” to the test, our own understanding is expanded and clarified in the very act of serious contemplation.

Thanks again!

Peace,
Ted

By: Harry

Harry — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:25:55 +0000

Hi, Ted.

Hee hee, I’m hardly a great model of sanctity, even by my own low standards!

You say a lot of stuff, but when I test it, it doesn’t seem to stand up so good. I think that is a worthwhile thing to do; but if you’re really not up for it I’ll just go away and leave your enlightened wisdom to it’s glory.

Yes, we all get wet and stink.

All the best,

Harry.

By: Ted Biringer

Ted Biringer — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:07:24 +0000

Okay Harry,

Thank you for your comments.

Here’s an idea: instead of sanctimoniously blathering on in the same old cynical tone about how “wide of the mark” I am, why don’t you share some of your profound wisdom, Harry?

What good can come from simply turning your nose up to sneeringly mock my efforts, Harry?

In other words, if your comments are really in concern for other’s “impression” of the Dharma (and not simply to demonstrate your own superiority) rather than curse the darkness (me and my deluded views), why not light a candle (share your enlightened wisdom)?

I hope you will consider this. There are no winners in a pissing match–everyone simply gets wet and stinks.

Peace,
Ted

By: Harry

Harry — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:46:57 +0000

P.s.

To clarify on my reaction to the ‘mantra’ statement: Dogen does indeed emphasise the reality of every real thing (a very refreshing and direct Buddhist perspective that deserves attention); my point was that, in emphasising this alone it overstates it becasue he also pointed out other important things that must be considered and enacted for this to be real and true.

To emphasise just this aspect of his teaching without broader context is to overstate it, and it seems misleading.

Regards,

Harry.