If we are to experience the myriad dharmas ‘as they are’ then, obviously, our experiential capacities must be able to acquaint us with reality. To give credence to dualists or pseudo-Zen cultists that claim ‘we do not experience reality as it is,’ we would need to be convinced that such a claim was valid, or at least that it could be valid. To qualify as ‘valid’ (by the standards of Zen or science) the proposition should be experimentally – that is, experientially – verifiable. In short, to validate the claim that ‘we do not experience reality as it is’ would invalidate itself. Thus, the claim is not only unverifiable; if it were true it would deny its own validity.